なんで、「日本での拷問、チュウゴクでの拷問」と叫ぶの？チュウゴクと一緒にするな。
Olympic torch protests: The latest developments
http://www1.pressdemocrat.com/article/20080409/NEWS/1082474
By SHADI RAHIMI AND LAURA NORTON
THE PRESS DEMOCRAT
UPDATED 4:04 p.m. From the Associated Press: The Olympic torch has concluded its topsy-turvy tour of San Francisco, and officials say the closing ceremony will be at San Francisco International Airport. Mayor Gavin Newsom says canceling the planning closing ceremony at Justin Herman Plaza on the San Francisco waterfront was always part of the contingency plan officials planned to employ if it looked like it was going to be too difficult to safeguard the torch and the people picked to carry it through the city. Thousands of people had gathered at the plaza to support and protest the Beijing-bound flame’s visit to the city.
3:18 p.m. The Associated Press reports that city officials say the planned closing ceremony for the Olympic torch at Justin Herman Plaza on the San Francisco waterfront is canceled and another one will take place at an undisclosed location.
2:20 p.m. — The thousands of people waiting along the waterfront for the torch relay didn’t see a thing, when torchbearers were taken by bus to Van Ness Avenue, away from the crowds to begin the run just after 2 p.m.
Under tight security and blanketed by officers on motorcycle, bikes and on foot, the runners made their way down Van Ness, ultimately turning toward the waterfront.
Mayor Gavin Newsom had warned the route could be changed, even during the route, to prevent a repeat of the chaos and violence that erupted in Paris, the previous leg of the relay.
Reporters, including local TV crews, scrambled for angles, racing into place as they learned the new direction of the route.
2 p.m. — Where’s the torch? That’s the question the thousands of people who have turned out to the San Francisco waterfront were asking after relay runners were ushered into a bus and failed to appear along the route.
Local TV crews scrambled for angles, without any view of the torch. Rumors circulated the torch would be placed on a ferry and taken directly to the Ferry Building. But that didn’t materialize.
It turned out police escorted the torch to Van Ness Avenue about a mile away, where torch holders began their run.
Despite the crowds outside San Francisco’s Ferry Building, inside the walkways and shops were quiet and employees say business is slow.
“The commotion is causing the locals not to come and the protesters only come in to ask where the bathrooms are,” said Talln Lee, 18, an employee of Boriana’s an Italian food import shop.
Tourists drawn to San Francisco were lunching in the Ferry Building’s upscale cafes. They said they have little desire to see the torch or take part in the event.
“The crowd’s too much,” said Matt Markiewicz, 32, on a cross-country trip from New York.
“And it should be about the Olympics, not this global soapbox for politics,” he said.
1:25 p.m. — The Olympic torch relay kicked off at 1:15 p.m., with brief remarks by the chief executive officer for the U.S. Olympic Committee, music and a lighting ceremony.
Before the ceremonies San Francisco officials cut the length of the route from 6 to 3.5 miles, deciding to double up runners and lessen the chance for conflict along the route.
The torch symbolizes “peace and unity,” said CEO Norman Bellingham, a former Olympic medal winner in kayak.
“It’s one of the greatest forces for good our society has,” he said, adding San Francisco was chosen because it so well represents America and tolerance.
The crowd cheered and was polite as he gave his remarks, with no sign of protesters near the platform or area just off of McCovey Cove next to AT&T Park where the ceremonies began.
Motorcycle officers lined the street in preparation for the first runner.
12:45 p.m. — On the ferry heading into San Francisco’s ferry terminal, finish line for North America’s lone part of the worldwide Olympic torch relay, a tourist from El Salvador offered her reasons for coming to today’s relay:
“After what’s happened in my country I am against any form of communism. I want to support Tibet by joining whatever I see,” Agui McFadzn said.
As for China hosting the games, McFadzn said simply, “not appropriate.”
Most of the 40 people on the midday ferry were headed into the city either to protest or to hear the speakers during ceremonies.
“It’s a wonderful thing for China to host the games,” said John Ma, a native of Shanghai now living in San Francisco. “It’s good for all the world. China is ready,” he said.
As for the protesters, Ma said, “It wasn’t right for them to be out today.”
As the hour drew closer to the start of the relay, dozens of police officers dressed in riot gear paraded down the route in a show of force.
12:25 p.m. — Participants in today’s torch relay were making their way to the staging area, even as both supporters and protesters continued to raise their voices.
Former San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown, dressed in khaki pants and the white Olympic shirt torchbearers will wear, said he wasn’t worried about the violence that erupted in Paris when the torch relay was suspended.
“I’m honored, and you should be too,” he told reporters, as he made his way alone through the crowd.
He said he wasn’t worried about protesters coming at him when he takes his turn as one of the torchbearers.
Ceremonies are scheduled to begin here at 1 p.m. with the relay starting soon after.
11:30 a.m. — Confrontations at the site of the starting line of the Olympic torch relay have prompted police officers to close the Third Street bridge next to McCovey Cove at AT&T Park.
San Francisco Police Lt. Jim Miller stood with 20 other officers separating pro-Tibet and pro-China factions at the bridge, which will be a torch crossing site once the relay begins shortly after 1 p.m.
“This has become an Olympic event, but now the event is how can you get through the cops to the torch,” Miller said.
He said there are 700 San Francisco police officers monitoring the relay, and addition sheriff’s deputies and FBI agents.
11:15 a.m. — With the iconic Golden Gate Bridge as a backdrop, a Burmese monk from Fremont and a dozen Burmese nationals walked across the bridge into San Francisco to protest China action in Myanmar, formerly Burma.
About 300 supporters of Burmese and Tibetan independence donned saffron robes or cloth and took part in the mostly silent march. At times they raised their voices, shouting, “Stand with you, walk with you, dream with you, Burma.”
The march made two of the nationals nervous and they kept a watchful eye on CHP and San Francisco police officers monitoring the march.
The two were distrustful of law enforcement, saying they were involved in confrontations with police in September in Rangoon, Myanmar, which they still refer to as Burma.
Judson Tun, 22, a business student at San Francisco State University, who arrived 23 months ago, said China has too much control of Burma.
“Business, culture, policy, even in Burma, is Chinese. It sucks. There is no freedom,” he said.
The protesters said they will disperse to different spots along the torch route later today.
10:45 a.m. — Early confrontations between pro-Tibet and pro-China protesters had law enforcement on alert but did not result in injuries or arrests so far today.
San Francisco police have erected hundreds of barricades and remain posted all along the waterfront in anticipation of today’s Olympic torch relay, scheduled for 1 p.m.
The confrontation over the relay began this morning with an angry and chaotic clash between the opposing groups of protesters.
Their dueling marches collided on Washington Street along the waterfront, as hundreds of pro-Tibetan marchers walked toward a small group waving Chinese flags.
“Liars! Liars!” the pro-Chinese group yelled, waving flags in the faces of the pro-Tibetans.
The marchers continued chanting “Free Tibet,” “Stop the killing in Tibet,” “Human Rights in Tibet” and “Torture in Japan; Torture in China” as they walked down the Embarcadero. One woman fell when she tripped after yelling back at a Chinese protester, before her friends ushered her away.
Joy Wang, 27, a software engineer in Millbrae who is originally from Beijing, said the pro-Tibet protesters are wrong to use the torch relay as a platform for their complaints over Chinese rule.
“You should separate the sports from the politics,” she said, waving a Chinese flag. “This is for the people all around the world. It only happens every four years. To use violence to torch carriers, that’s wrong. I think there should be peace.”
9:30 a.m. — Protesters clashed shortly after 9:30 this morning in anticipation of this afternoon’s Olympic torch relay.
Flag-waving pro-Tibet protesters marched down the Embarcadero shouting “Torture in Japan, torture in China, human rights in Tibet, free Tibet now.”
That brought forth those in support of China, bearing the nation’s distinctive red flag, who countered with chants of “liar” in the direction of the protesters.
At one point the two sides engaged in pushing and shoving, marking the differences at play in San Francisco today, the only North American stop for the Olympic torch as it makes its way to Beijing.
Thousands of supporters of the games, if not the Chinese government, were already gathered near AT&T Park.
Joy Wang, 27, of Bay Area Dragon said those using the Olympic torch relay as a moment of protest are wrong.
“You should separate the sports from the politics this is for people all over the world. It only happens every four years. To use violence to torch carriers, that’s wrong,” said the software engineer from Millbrae.
Sherry Xiong, 30, an engineer from Sunnyvale, said, “The protesters need to show respect. This is a message of peace to all the world. You need to respect the athletes.”
9 a.m. — A day of celebration and protest over the Olympic torch relay in San Francisco is already under way, as flag-waving supporters of Tibet greeted BART commuters, Burmese Monks began gathering at the Golden Gate Bridge for a peace march and members of the California Chinese Culture-Athletic Federation readied to perform in Justin Herman Plaza.
Standing a block away from the Plaza on Embarcadero, 38-year-old Penpa Tsering waved the Tibetan flag. Tsering said he fled Tibet when he was 19 in search of religious and cultural freedom and now lives in Berkeley. He said the eyes of the world are on San Francisco today and he wanted to make sure his voice was heard.
He said he does not have anything against the Olympics or the Chinese people: "Our religion is one of compassion and non-violence. We're just trying to take a stand against the Chinese government," said Tsering, a Buddhist.
The Olympic torch relay begins at AT&T Park at 1 p.m. today. Extra security from both the CHP and the San Francisco Police Department is on hand today.
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2:20 p.m. — The thousands of people waiting along the waterfront for the torch relay didn’t see a thing, when torchbearers were taken by bus to Van Ness Avenue, away from the crowds to begin the run just after 2 p.m.
Under tight security and blanketed by officers on motorcycle, bikes and on foot, the runners made their way down Van Ness, ultimately turning toward the waterfront.
Mayor Gavin Newsom had warned the route could be changed, even during the route, to prevent a repeat of the chaos and violence that erupted in Paris, the previous leg of the relay.
Reporters, including local TV crews, scrambled for angles, racing into place as they learned the new direction of the route.
2 p.m. — Where’s the torch? That’s the question the thousands of people who have turned out to the San Francisco waterfront were asking after relay runners were ushered into a bus and failed to appear along the route.
Local TV crews scrambled for angles, without any view of the torch. Rumors circulated the torch would be placed on a ferry and taken directly to the Ferry Building. But that didn’t materialize.
It turned out police escorted the torch to Van Ness Avenue about a mile away, where torch holders began their run.
Despite the crowds outside San Francisco’s Ferry Building, inside the walkways and shops were quiet and employees say business is slow.
“The commotion is causing the locals not to come and the protesters only come in to ask where the bathrooms are,” said Talln Lee, 18, an employee of Boriana’s an Italian food import shop.
Tourists drawn to San Francisco were lunching in the Ferry Building’s upscale cafes. They said they have little desire to see the torch or take part in the event.
“The crowd’s too much,” said Matt Markiewicz, 32, on a cross-country trip from New York.
“And it should be about the Olympics, not this global soapbox for politics,” he said.
1:25 p.m. — The Olympic torch relay kicked off at 1:15 p.m., with brief remarks by the chief executive officer for the U.S. Olympic Committee, music and a lighting ceremony.
Before the ceremonies San Francisco officials cut the length of the route from 6 to 3.5 miles, deciding to double up runners and lessen the chance for conflict along the route.
The torch symbolizes “peace and unity,” said CEO Norman Bellingham, a former Olympic medal winner in kayak.
“It’s one of the greatest forces for good our society has,” he said, adding San Francisco was chosen because it so well represents America and tolerance.
The crowd cheered and was polite as he gave his remarks, with no sign of protesters near the platform or area just off of McCovey Cove next to AT&T Park where the ceremonies began.
Motorcycle officers lined the street in preparation for the first runner.
12:45 p.m. — On the ferry heading into San Francisco’s ferry terminal, finish line for North America’s lone part of the worldwide Olympic torch relay, a tourist from El Salvador offered her reasons for coming to today’s relay:
“After what’s happened in my country I am against any form of communism. I want to support Tibet by joining whatever I see,” Agui McFadzn said.
As for China hosting the games, McFadzn said simply, “not appropriate.”
Most of the 40 people on the midday ferry were headed into the city either to protest or to hear the speakers during ceremonies.
“It’s a wonderful thing for China to host the games,” said John Ma, a native of Shanghai now living in San Francisco. “It’s good for all the world. China is ready,” he said.
As for the protesters, Ma said, “It wasn’t right for them to be out today.”
As the hour drew closer to the start of the relay, dozens of police officers dressed in riot gear paraded down the route in a show of force.
12:25 p.m. — Participants in today’s torch relay were making their way to the staging area, even as both supporters and protesters continued to raise their voices.
Former San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown, dressed in khaki pants and the white Olympic shirt torchbearers will wear, said he wasn’t worried about the violence that erupted in Paris when the torch relay was suspended.
“I’m honored, and you should be too,” he told reporters, as he made his way alone through the crowd.
He said he wasn’t worried about protesters coming at him when he takes his turn as one of the torchbearers.
Ceremonies are scheduled to begin here at 1 p.m. with the relay starting soon after.
11:30 a.m. — Confrontations at the site of the starting line of the Olympic torch relay have prompted police officers to close the Third Street bridge next to McCovey Cove at AT&T Park.
San Francisco Police Lt. Jim Miller stood with 20 other officers separating pro-Tibet and pro-China factions at the bridge, which will be a torch crossing site once the relay begins shortly after 1 p.m.
“This has become an Olympic event, but now the event is how can you get through the cops to the torch,” Miller said.
He said there are 700 San Francisco police officers monitoring the relay, and addition sheriff’s deputies and FBI agents.
11:15 a.m. — With the iconic Golden Gate Bridge as a backdrop, a Burmese monk from Fremont and a dozen Burmese nationals walked across the bridge into San Francisco to protest China action in Myanmar, formerly Burma.
About 300 supporters of Burmese and Tibetan independence donned saffron robes or cloth and took part in the mostly silent march. At times they raised their voices, shouting, “Stand with you, walk with you, dream with you, Burma.”
The march made two of the nationals nervous and they kept a watchful eye on CHP and San Francisco police officers monitoring the march.
The two were distrustful of law enforcement, saying they were involved in confrontations with police in September in Rangoon, Myanmar, which they still refer to as Burma.
Judson Tun, 22, a business student at San Francisco State University, who arrived 23 months ago, said China has too much control of Burma.
“Business, culture, policy, even in Burma, is Chinese. It sucks. There is no freedom,” he said.
The protesters said they will disperse to different spots along the torch route later today.
10:45 a.m. — Early confrontations between pro-Tibet and pro-China protesters had law enforcement on alert but did not result in injuries or arrests so far today.
San Francisco police have erected hundreds of barricades and remain posted all along the waterfront in anticipation of today’s Olympic torch relay, scheduled for 1 p.m.
The confrontation over the relay began this morning with an angry and chaotic clash between the opposing groups of protesters.
Their dueling marches collided on Washington Street along the waterfront, as hundreds of pro-Tibetan marchers walked toward a small group waving Chinese flags.
“Liars! Liars!” the pro-Chinese group yelled, waving flags in the faces of the pro-Tibetans.
The marchers continued chanting “Free Tibet,” “Stop the killing in Tibet,” “Human Rights in Tibet” and “Torture in Japan; Torture in China” as they walked down the Embarcadero. One woman fell when she tripped after yelling back at a Chinese protester, before her friends ushered her away.
Joy Wang, 27, a software engineer in Millbrae who is originally from Beijing, said the pro-Tibet protesters are wrong to use the torch relay as a platform for their complaints over Chinese rule.
“You should separate the sports from the politics,” she said, waving a Chinese flag. “This is for the people all around the world. It only happens every four years. To use violence to torch carriers, that’s wrong. I think there should be peace.”
9:30 a.m. — Protesters clashed shortly after 9:30 this morning in anticipation of this afternoon’s Olympic torch relay.
Flag-waving pro-Tibet protesters marched down the Embarcadero shouting “Torture in Japan, torture in China, human rights in Tibet, free Tibet now.”
That brought forth those in support of China, bearing the nation’s distinctive red flag, who countered with chants of “liar” in the direction of the protesters.
At one point the two sides engaged in pushing and shoving, marking the differences at play in San Francisco today, the only North American stop for the Olympic torch as it makes its way to Beijing.
Thousands of supporters of the games, if not the Chinese government, were already gathered near AT&T Park.
Joy Wang, 27, of Bay Area Dragon said those using the Olympic torch relay as a moment of protest are wrong.
“You should separate the sports from the politics this is for people all over the world. It only happens every four years. To use violence to torch carriers, that’s wrong,” said the software engineer from Millbrae.
Sherry Xiong, 30, an engineer from Sunnyvale, said, “The protesters need to show respect. This is a message of peace to all the world. You need to respect the athletes.”
9 a.m. — A day of celebration and protest over the Olympic torch relay in San Francisco is already under way, as flag-waving supporters of Tibet greeted BART commuters, Burmese Monks began gathering at the Golden Gate Bridge for a peace march and members of the California Chinese Culture-Athletic Federation readied to perform in Justin Herman Plaza.
Standing a block away from the Plaza on Embarcadero, 38-year-old Penpa Tsering waved the Tibetan flag. Tsering said he fled Tibet when he was 19 in search of religious and cultural freedom and now lives in Berkeley. He said the eyes of the world are on San Francisco today and he wanted to make sure his voice was heard.
He said he does not have anything against the Olympics or the Chinese people: "Our religion is one of compassion and non-violence. We're just trying to take a stand against the Chinese government," said Tsering, a Buddhist.
The Olympic torch relay begins at AT&T Park at 1 p.m. today. Extra security from both the CHP and the San Francisco Police Department is on hand today.
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「日本での拷問、チュウゴクでの拷問」って、
いったい、日本でどんな拷問が起きたっちゅうねん。
いったい、誰が日本で拷問されたのか。
もしかして、キリシタンが迫害されて殺されたことを
言っているのか？
それとも、アメリカのチベット人と、彼らの応援者は、
日本で、韓国人の少女が拷問されたと言っているのか？
韓国人の少女たちは、戦争の時に、親に売春やどのおやじ
（軍についてまわった売春宿のおやじはほとんどが朝鮮系日本人。）
に売られて、売春婦になったのですが、人聞きの悪いことに
彼らは日本とチュウゴクをいっしょくたにして、抗議の声をあげて
いたらしい。こういうことに、文句を言わないと、日本人が本当に
誰かを拷問したということになってしまう。
日本人キリシタンたちと外国人宣教師たちは、
確かに日本人に拷問されたよ！
しかし、そんな昔のことを、今、現在起きている中国武装警官が
チベット人１４０名を殺したことと、一緒にしないでほしい。
頭にくる！誰か、英語で反論を書いておくれ。ｂｙ日本のお姉さん
こちらに、「あんまりだ。」と意見を書いておくれ。
なんで、アメリカのチベット人たちは
「日本での拷問、チュウゴクでの拷問」って、言うんだろう！？↓