zeitgeist the movie 関連、ここに引越し…
[ 2008年10月15日追記 ]
訳そうとしてますが、どうやったら日本語で意味のなす文にできるか悩みまくってるうちに時間が過ぎてしまう。
数日前、あべよしひろ さん の本が増刷されて入手可能になったのでオーダーしてたのが届いたので、どうやって日本語に訳していいのかわからんかった語とかもみつけれそうで、嬉しい。 ちまちま時間のスキを見つけて読みはじめたが、こんな私にでもわかりやすく書いてくれてるし、よく考えると実際には悲惨な事の内容だが、読んでて面白いし、なんせ楽しい。たぶん、こういうネタに慣れすぎてしまったからだとは思うけど、笑ってしまう程楽しかったりする・・・。 日本人全員が読むべきだと思う。
それにしても、私はなんもまともに知らんくせに、よくもまあ、イルミナティの事かいてきたもんだ、とも思う。 だって、このネタの“本”を読むのは初めてなのだ。 まあ、ちょこっと似たところで「第3の波」とか、メディアの陰謀の本とか・・・なんだっけアレ・・・とか、赤軍派のとか、15年くらい前に読んだきりだった。
このブログはじめるのに、たいして知らん私が詳しいこと書き出すより、ネットでみつかる情報のリンクつけたほうがいいと思ったので、そっちのほうが忙しくて、本まで読む余裕なかったし、他のちゃんとしたブログとおんなじ事書いても意味ないと思ったから、どうやら他ではあんまし書いてないらしい、自分の大好き分野でもある紀元前からの文化との関連について書こうと思ったからなのもあった。 が、
もう、全く本を読まずにいる限界だった。 とりあえず、自分が書いてきたことはそんなに間違ってないらしく、ほっとしている。 なんせほとんどが、英語版ウィキペディアと自分のペイガン本コレクションと、他のサイトからの情報の寄せ集めだったから。
ついでに、前から読んでみたかった太田先生の本も何冊か一緒に買ったので、楽しみにしている。
昨日は満月だったのに、ケム空でもやもやしてて、このやろー！・・・と思った。 そういえば、誰かが昨日来るとか言ってた、宇宙船とやらはどうなったのだろう・・・。
この前のG7、ブッシュがアメリカ大統領なの見て、ああ！まだこいつなんだよな！まだこいつ・・・っていうのもすごいけど、なんと、しょうちゃんがそこに・・・。 本当に、究極に、笑ってしまう程、はちゃめちゃである。 ははは。
[ 2008年10月20日 追記 エドワード・グリフィンの意見 ]
本当は、この前アレックスとピーターが喋ってるやつの中からピーターの言葉を書いときゃよかったんですけど、今日見たぶんから特に重要だと思った部分で、いちおう全部聞き取れた分の英文載せておきます。 訳すと時間かかるので、それはまた今度そのうち。
とりあえず、エドワード・グリフィンが私も思ったことを言ってくれてたので、その一部を紹介したいと思います。
このビデオの中に、細かいトコききとれないけど意味はわかる超重要な事ももっといっぱいあるけど、それを書こうと思ってたらいつまでたってもZeitgeist続編の訳のほうも進まないので、とりあえずこんだけ。
と、ポイントを説明すると、アレックスがピーターに、「もし計画に従わなかったら俺はどうなる？」って質問したら、要するに、「再教育され、再調整される」と言われた。
今回このビデオの中で、ピーターが推し進めるハイ・テクノロジーがそれに使われるであろう事についてアレックスとエドワード・グリフィンは語ってている。
ピーターは、テクノロジーによって、社会階級はなくなるなんて言っているが、地域区分や地域の代表者をなくし、お金というものを廃止すれば、テクノロジーを操る者が唯一の権力者になるのは当然である。
ピーターは、テクノロジーは権力者ではなく、皆で分け合うものだと言っているが、今まで誰がテクノロジーを操ってきたか考えたら、それこそ真っ青なウソ・・・なのは想像できると思うけど、同じように繰り返されてきた歴史の本当の意味を知らない多くの人は、ピーターによって与えられた夢を壊されたくないのでアレックスをいじめて潰そうとしている。
ZeitGeist Addendum"A New Religion"2/3
Jason Bermas
“ You know I mean again, everything is just there for us, magically everything’s gonna work, all the problems gonna be done, no one’s gonna have a job apparently. “
Alex Jones
“ I’ll guarantee you this, you go down to New York, and you hang around outside the Theosophic society offices and you go to their meetings and we need our people to do this. Join them if you have to, and we’re going to probably see some people we heard from before but under other names, ok, and Peter Joseph needs to tell his real name, and he needs to tell us his funding …”
（中略）
Alex Jones
“ …G Edward Griffin, I mean, I know you’re working on this for a Monetary angle and, you know, with the silliness of it, basically how it’s a repeat of Carl Marx, and withering away of States, and but a---, I did some more research and, I mean, this thing is total UN!, G Edward Griffin …“
G Edward Griffin
“ （中略） …Yes, I did look at this, not from the theological perspective because I thought that a lot of people who are more qualified than I , to analyze this from that direction and yes I was looking at it from the, a point of view of whichever presenting the Federal Reserve system and a attacking the reserve system and particularly from the point of view of a what they proposed as the solution to our problems, and I found that in this film which was called Zeitgeist Addendum and that was a lot that was very good, in the beginning specially, a lot of critique, of the Federal Reserve system, and I thought, boy, this guy is good or god job! And then, then it began to fall apart! And they came into some silly stuff about that, the Fed never is able to create enough money to pay for the interest and few other…（中略）
G Edward Griffin
“ …One of the most brilliant qualities of the New World Order people, is that, they understand Human nature and they know that there is going to be a tremendous backlash against what they’re trying to do, so, they never just wait for that to happen （音声がぐちゃぐちゃで聞き取れない部分）…, and, say, “ Look, if it’s gonna be a backlash, let’s lead it ourselves or let’s be influential on it, so we can control it, make sure it doesn’t go anywhere”. This is happened over & over again through out history…”
>>>『マネーを生みだす怪物 ―連邦準備制度という壮大な詐欺システム (単行本) エドワード・グリフィン (著), 吉田 利子 （翻訳）；Amazon.co.jp 』
聞いて大体わかる人は是非、この前後のクリップもみてほしい。
ピーターとアレックスが対決してる分は、お互いに話をややこしくしているし、ピーターにシッポをださせようと、アレックスはガンガンぶっとばしているので、あまり聞き心地の良いものではないが、ピーターが結局うさんくさい事しか言ってないのはわかると思う。
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pC--9zclwNk
から4本つづいてて、その続きはここから
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=y83cEzFWa_8
［ 2008年10月24日 追記 ］
下は、17日までにアレックスのビデオのコメント欄などに私が書いたものの下書きのコピーです。 まだ日本語訳を全部載せてないので、いっぺんに色々書けないので、知りたい人は参考にして下さい・・・。
結構、投稿した順番はぐちゃぐちゃだし、だぶってるトコもあります・・・。
As Alex said, I agree 90% of this film is still so great.
It’s just, so dangerous.
Have you noticed the woman drops the handbag and her cosmetic compact, as the same as a military guy drops the gun, at the end of the film?
…Oh, well, I wonder how many guys will be able to stand that in reality, haha.
The cosmetic stuff is nothing!!! Compared to the amount of fuel the militaries are just wasting & killing the innocent people just for making money!
And I hate those fake earth-friendly shit for destroying the innocent cultures & traditions…
…Whatever CO2 stuff was just a big lie, I appreciate the fact that people started to think about the environment things more, but,
I just don’t like that some dodgy people are just devouring on that to actually destroy this planet.
I'm worried about the venus project thing...
It seems Peter is trying to give us the right to knead it, but...
it sounds like, taking over the masonic stuff...
I do respect the witch craft philosophy, so, if it's only good for the good future, that's alright, I think, but,
is "You are everything" means I'm a piece of Bush's poo as well for the particle stuff ? , and,
" There will be no one left" and, "no prison" means, those bastards will never get blamed and we just have to accept it?
There is actually a human nature which is "to think and make tools for it", and, before that, first of all, Human's got the nature as the same as all the other animals on this planet. Which are Jealousy, Territory, and Shagging . Those are just the natural nature of all the animals on this planet, so I don't think smudging off the scarcity can eliminate the crimes...or maybe we might not be able to call the attacks as the crimes...
I really appreciate Alex, saying everything I thought when I saw this film and V project's homepage !!!
Why do they have to talk in this messy way?
It doesn’t need to be Christian stuff to be real EVIL on this planet! Using HAARP and DARPA is clearly EVIL, without the concept of Christianity.. And, the Monetary system was planned to be failed, from the beginning, to bring the New Age, with 3WW and Lucifer, and it is even actually written 100 years ago on the Zionist statements, and, Peter himself even put the clue of it on the Zeitgeist Part 1 ! I still don’t understand Peter for that point…
I agree with Alex. Peter made some points for some good possibility & examples. But anyway, who made & own all the high technologies have been always the so-called world elites. I suppose Peter is suggesting to get the treasure into our hands, but, can we really technically build a car with our own hands? We have to go back to the technicians to get the stuff anyway...the same people who've been controlling us. I'm scared of Peter now. I'm afraid he got taken by the NWO after his 1st film...
I think Peter gave us the chance to share the Venus project thing with Mass criticism, cos if we just leave that things in the hands of world elites who govern all those high technologies, the world government can proceed in their own way with the original plan of New World, in the Masonic way.
They all planned to make people jump on the resorce-based economy stuff by torturing people with the oil & CO2 stuff.
Alex is just talking about the reality cos he knows all the hidden truth.
I know Peter is trying to boycott the 3rd world war coming, and he gave us the ideas what we can at least do, and I agree with him, but,...they can just push the buttons to sweep everything out without the army, and then provide everything for free and build the New World.
But anyway, Peter gave us a lot of great info!
I know this addendum contradicts to the first one a lot, but as he said in the first one, we just have to think in many ways, not like those who just follow like sheep without thinking. If Peter didn’t bring the Venus subject, we might not have noticed the danger of the hole. Peter is actually showing the Venus thing in a rather ominous way, I felt, and, Fresco’s design looks rather ridiculous like the old future in the retro films! , looks so outdated
I’m so worried about, Who planned to expire the money system for New World at the first place? Since long before this Addendum, it is said the world government's gonna expire the money system. It's alright if we don't need to get all Modified by Venus Project which believes there is no human nature but there is human behaviour. Human's got human nature, which is "to think and make tools for it"
I think Peter is also trying to change the awareness of Illuminati. He showed a sun in a triangle when the 4 elements & plants & animals were described, to remind them of the original pagan meanings of those, I suppose. About worshipping nature and natural system, not about the social stratification and a boss. Destroying the Earth for their own ego is the most stupid thing. But, as like Alex mentioning, we have to be careful as well…
I think Peter is trying to take over the NWO things and change them as well, but, I don't think it's gonna work in the way of V project, obviously, practically, after I studied about Albert Pike and those. I'm even worried about Peter's got brain-surgeried or something, after his first film...
New one contradicts to the point of the first one so much.
Whatever we expired the money system, those who have been controlling everything won't be just disappeared or changing. To accomplish Peter's plot peacefully, those power addicts also have to change, but, can they?
They'll still be governing all the high-tech stuff, and, those who don't need the money system anymore is the ones who can control us by Modifying humans.
I don't care if the money will be expired if we can be alright with it, but, they don't just disappear and so I'm worried.
I don't reject all the ideas Peter brought up, but I'm worried about the Venus project. cos, they say "there is no human nature, but human behaviour". Human's got the human nature which is "to think and make tools for it" . and, before that, human is also the lives, the animals on this planet. As the same as all the other animals on this planet, human's got the nature of, jealousy, territory, making children. Those are not the guilt or good or bad originally, just the nature of living lives. We have to be careful.
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I think Peter’s got to make the Zeitgeist Extension! to show how it is possible to MODIFY all people like suppressing the human’s nature without noticed by using HAARP and DARPA, and the danger of it. And, I don’t think the list Peter made for what we can do now is really wrong. He made so ironic contradiction using Carlin’s joke which was giving a “condition”.
Oh, no, Peter, birds will make nests without learning! It might not be all of them cos the ones with the weak natural instinct have to be dropped always in the wild.
And, those wealthy Illuminati people themselves are not tasting the scarcity for surviving, I suppose. They’ve got the enough wealth for whatever they want, but aren’t they doing rather Evil things?...it doesn’t make sense…
Anyway I agree the list Peter made for improving our conditions, but I’m worried about the V project.
...Those wealthy Illuminati people themselves are not tasting the scarcity for surviving. They’ve got much more than enough wealth for whatever they want to buy, but aren’t they doing rather SICK things?...it doesn’t make sense, Peter… Why do they do HAARP and DARPA to us?
Anyway at least I agree with the list Peter made for improving our conditions for what we can at least do now.
I honestly think Alex is very funny and cute.
He himself making fun of Christianity.
Anyway, when we have to think about the Holism, we shouldn’t forget, the Whole is there cos it’s consisted of Parts.
If there isn’t any Parts, it is just a massive single cell.
Monetary system and Using money is not the same thing originally. Demolishing the Monetary system doesn’t need to be really eradicating the honest money. And, we need the proper representatives we choose for each own village, not the boss. A massive single cell is dangerous.
Yea, Peter, they( Illuminati guys) will join us...and will corrupt us from inside...as long as there's something one key which holds everything...and that's what they always do, and have been doing.
We have to keep the separated cells with respect, in harmony...
That will make them not easy to corrupt & take over everything again from the beginning, I believe.
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