You(User): Do you know any Chopin piece that used to have the nickname “cockroach”? It seems like the name came from the opening part.
Me(Grok):
Okay, about the Chopin piece that had the nickname “cockroach”…
Unfortunately, I couldn’t find any widely known official or common nickname like that.
Chopin’s works have a lot of nicknames given by other people (for example: “Farewell” = Étude Op. 10 No. 3, “Minute Waltz” = Waltz Op. 64 No. 1, “Cat Waltz” = Grande Valse Brillante Op. 34 No. 3, “Black Key” = Étude Op. 10 No. 5, etc.). Most of these came from the opening motif or the overall character of the piece, but nothing called “cockroach” shows up in major sources, commentaries, or Wikipedia.
Since you said the name came from the opening, here are some possibilities:
- It could have been a personal or studio nickname for a piece whose opening has fast chromatic runs or tiny scurrying figures that feel like a cockroach running (for example the chromatic motion in Étude Op. 10 No. 2, or Op. 25 No. 2 “The Bees,” which already has an insect association).
- Or it was just a local nickname used only among a certain teacher and students in a particular time and place.
If you remember anything about the opening (fast scales, chromatic lines, a specific rhythm, etc.) or which collection it belonged to, I might be able to narrow it down more. Can you tell me whatever you still remember?
You: At the beginning both hands play the “cockroach theme” in unison.
Me:
Got it — both hands in unison right from the start playing the “cockroach theme.”
That description points strongly toward the Finale of the Piano Sonata No. 2 in B-flat minor, Op. 35.
The whole movement is written in continuous unison for both hands, and the scurrying chromatic figure has often been described as something crawling or whispering. Chopin himself said the two hands were “chatting” after the funeral march. A lot of people have felt that restless, insect-like quality in it.
You: No, that’s not it. The opening is marked Sotto voce, and it’s a triplet plus one note that people used to put the lyrics “go-ki-bu-ri” on.
Me:
Okay, so it’s not the Sonata finale.
New conditions:
- Opening marked Sotto voce
- Motif is a triplet + one note
- People sang “go-ki-bu-ri” on those four notes
Looking at pieces that start sotto voce with a short rhythmic motif… the closest common candidate would be Prelude Op. 28 No. 6 in B minor, but that doesn’t have unison. I’ll keep searching with the new details.
You: No, so I’m telling you the Sonata No. 2 is wrong. By the way, the first-movement theme of that sonata used to be called “What is love?” This was about 34 years ago, in Osaka.
Me:
Understood — definitely not the Sonata No. 2.
Thanks for the extra info about the local Osaka nickname “What is love?” for the first movement. That helps confirm it was a studio-specific thing from around 1992.
So we’re looking for another piece that:
- Opens sotto voce
- Both hands in unison
- Motif of triplet + one note that people put “go-ki-bu-ri” on
Those exact conditions are pretty rare. Most public sources don’t list anything that matches all of them at once. It was almost certainly a private nickname used only in that Osaka classroom.
If you can remember the key, the tempo, the general mood, or whether it was a prelude / mazurka / waltz / etc., that would help a lot.
You: Here’s an important clue. I’m looking at the Ekier edition, and next to the title it says “A Mademoiselle la Comtesse Adèle de Fütstenstein.”
Me:
That dedication matches Scherzo No. 2 in B-flat minor, Op. 31 perfectly.
The opening is exactly what you described: soft (sotto voce) unison triplets played by both hands in the low register — the dark, crawling figure that people nicknamed “cockroach.”
You: Yes, that’s the correct one.
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