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Raghava KK: Shake up your story

小さいことは気にすんなッ、主題と主張をつかもう！

NHKのEテレ「スーパープレゼンテーション新春スペシャル」にて
2013年1月2日（水）夜10時から放送→ NHK Super Presentation

【話題】 様々な視点から見ることを教える

【時間】 4分31秒
【要約】
１．私が作ったipadの絵本
　子供の絵本はプロパガンダでいっぱい
　（親のもつ偏見が入っているということを言いたいのでしょうか？）
　iPadを振ると、状況設定が変わる
　（両親がホモセクシャルだったり、レズビアンだったり）
　これが絶対に理想的というものは存在しないと思う

２．私のバックグラウンド
　学校はキリスト教
　家族はヒンズー教徒のソマリア人
　ご近所さんはみんなイスラム教徒
　どんな宗教行事にもよろこんで参加する

３．ヒンズー教徒によるモスク襲撃事件（私が13歳の時）

４．私がつくる作品
　歴史的な紛争について、感情的にならずに、もういちど考えてみる
　インドの独立について、パキスタンや英国の立場で考えてみる
　「事実」と「偏見」とを分けなければならない

５．私がみなさんと議論したいこと
　創造性を育むために大切なことは、
　幼少期に、様々な角度から物事を見る視点を身に付けさせること
　様々な視点を持つことは、他人の立場に立って想像し、共感すること
　芸術と創造は、様々な視点を育むために大きな役割を果たす

【語彙】

shake up ：目覚めさせる、かき回す

potty training ：トイレのしつけ

propaganda ：プロパガンダ、偏った考え方の宣伝活動

counter ：対抗する

proper ：適切な

profusely ：やたらと

biryani ：焼き飯

fast ：断食する

demolish ：破壊する

riot ：暴動

unrest ：騒乱：

distill ：蒸留する

residue ：残渣

patriotic ：愛国的な

bias ：偏見、偏り

conversely ：逆に

empathy ：共感

geopolitics ：地政学

in someone's shoes ：～の立場になって考えると

【transcripts】

Hi everyone. I'm an artist and a dad -- second time around. Thank you. And I want to share with you my latest art project. It's a children's book for the iPad. It's a little quirky and silly. It's called "Pop-It," And it's about the things little kids do with their parents.

So this is about potty training -- as most of you, I hope, know. You can tickle the rug. You can make the baby poop. You can do all those fun things. You can burst bubbles. You can draw, as everyone should.

But you know, I have a problem with children's books: I think they're full of propaganda. At least an Indian trying to get one of these American books in Park Slope, forget it. It's not the way I was brought up. So I said, "I'm going to counter this with my own propaganda." If you notice carefully, it's a homosexual couple bringing up a child. You don't like it? Shake it, and you have a lesbian couple. (Laughter) Shake it, and you have a heterosexual couple. You know, I don't even believe in the concept of an ideal family.

I have to tell you about my childhood. I went to this very proper Christian school taught by nuns, fathers, brothers, sisters. Basically, I was brought up to be a good Samaritan, and I am. And I'd go at the end of the day to a traditional Hindu house, which was probably the only Hindu house in a predominantly Islamic neighborhood. Basically, I celebrated every religious function. In fact, when there was a wedding in our neighborhood, all of us would paint our houses for the wedding. I remember we cried profusely when the little goats we played with in the summer became biryani. (Laughter) We all had to fast during Ramadan. It was a very beautiful time.

But I must say, I'll never forget, when I was 13 years old, this happened. Babri Masjid -- one of the most beautiful mosques in India, built by King Babur, I think, in the 16th century -- was demolished by Hindu activists. This caused major riots in my city. And for the first time, I was affected by this communal unrest. My little five-year-old kid neighbor comes running in, and he says, "Rags, Rags. You know the Hindus are killing us Muslims. Be careful." I'm like, "Dude, I'm Hindu." (Laughter) He's like, "Huh!"

You know, my work is inspired by events such as this. Even in my gallery shows, I try and revisit historic events like Babri Masjid, distill only its emotional residue and image my own life. Imagine history being taught differently.

Remember that children's book where you shake and the sexuality of the parents change? I have another idea. It's a children's book about Indian independence -- very patriotic. But when you shake it, you get Pakistan's perspective. Shake it again, and you get the British perspective.

You have to separate fact from bias, right. Even my books on children have cute, fuzzy animals. But they're playing geopolitics. They're playing out Israel-Palestine, India-Pakistan. You know, I'm making a very important argument. And my argument [is] that the only way for us to teach creativity is by teaching children perspectives at the earliest stage. After all, children's books are manuals on parenting, so you better give them children's books that teach them perspectives. And conversely, only when you teach perspectives will a child be able to imagine and put themselves in the shoes of someone who is different from them.

I'm making an argument that art and creativity are very essential tools in empathy. You know, I can't promise my child a life without bias -- we're all biased -- but I promise to bias my child with multiple perspectives.

Thank you very much.

ラガヴァ・ＫＫ「揺すって変えるストーリー」