The Carling cup fixtures were a goal scoring story for Owens, who have struggled for a while in their careers in their own ways yet, while Micheal continues to prove his instincts are sharp as ever and his support for the current club and passion for the game, Hargreaves chose to spit in the the face of his remaining supporters at Manchester United with his thinly veiled remarks about the handling of his medical condition. There are cases of botched headlines largely sabotaging what was being conveyed, but it was definitely not the case this time.
This leaves United fans seething, especially because it comes after him joining a few, if not elite, group of players who have crossed the United-City divide. It'd be a delight to watch Berbatov and Micheal Owen combine again up front, and much like Owen, Berbatov has had more than his fair share of sitting on the sidelines, and in both cases deservedly or undeservedly benched continues to be a raging debate, yet the grandmaster of Berbatov and Micheal Owen would and should remain unquestioned. So there's a Micheal Owen, ex Liverpool ex Real-Madrid, who has a rate of 0.33 goals per match like Charlton, and who's not happy with picking up his money for nothing, and then there's a Owen Hargreaves, no less a player or professional, and especially someone who had been supported by Manchester United despite rare appearances for over a period of three years *, with medical support, contract extensions, pay checks, opportunities to return to action; but when gets respectfully released, posts fitness videos online, gets a pay-as-you-play deal, scores a great goal in Carling cup, he forgets the meaning of the words Humbleness and Gratitude. Is it something in the Manchester City water supply?
How Manchester times has Roo come back from injury ,and who can forget the Valencia injury? and all have come back ahead of schedule ,without a recurrence. So to say he was a guinea pig is a bad choice of words IMO. We all would have loved to see Hargo back in the famous Red and White,but when it happened it lasted for 6 minutes. And no one was happy about it, and who would be .SAF was determined to get him and did not give up till he got him. The fans looked forward to his signing. United have got by far the best team in the premiership. It is a fashion now to complain about something at your old team to make your new fans happy,and since he had very little to complain about his previous team ,he chose the medical team. I think Manchester of the United fans are being far too sensitive here and the situation isn't helped by headlines such as the one above this article. I don't think Hargreaves is aiming an accusation at those who treated him during his time at OT and, in fact, there are He is, however, clearly very frustrated by the three years lost to injury. Is more of an acceptance that an injured player is in the hands of experts and often has no idea of what is going on. Manchester players are "guinea pigs" these days because we live in an age in which the state of knowledge in medical science makes it possible to try new procedures to treat injuries which were hitherto untreatable. Tendinitis is one of those conditions which can still defy treatment and injections may be the only course available, though hardly to be undertaken lightly. I think anyone who has read Paul Lake's book sympathises with any footballer who faces career threatening injury, and with any club that has a player in such straits, especially when the medics simply don't know what to do for the least bad, never mind for the best. That is all true. But I think that Owen should be a bit more sensitive to his own situation. Who would not want the best for Owen Hargreaves? United? The Doctors? The supporters? Have United not given all their support to Owen during this time? Has he not, by large, run his own rehab work in across the globe, with United picking up the bill? Has he not consulted the very elite doctors? The root of the problem is coming back way early from this broken leg while at Bayern Munich. There is no "one solution" to his problem, since the problem has changed during the course of these 3-4 years. To come out and say what he's saying here on the back of a 59 minutes long appearance in the Carling Cup, to those who have helped and supported him during his years at United is disgusting. I am also quite sure that if a foreign player would have done the same there would be a rampage beyond belief. But I guess being English should at least give you some perks. Nearly 30 years ago I remember having a myelogram for a spinal problem which defied diagnosis. This procedure is now discredited and abandoned! This was a statement of fact but it did suggest that the doctor had been wrong ordering it at the time, which he wasn't. My point is that if anyone knows that a club has every interest in getting a player fit and not ruining his career it's Owen. But I think there are three factors at work here: one is the rapid pace of change in the state of medical knowledge, the second is the press which seems to sell papers by I think, however, that trying to come back from such a long term injury necessarily involves a lot of time spent in rehab on your own, "picking up the pieces" after treatments which are either "innovative" or "desperate", depending on your viewpoint. In the end, I think the treatment given to Owen while at United actually appears to have remedied his condition, though it may be a little early to say,and I'm sure he's the first to recognise this.
So what, is he claiming that Dr Stead - the specialist under whom he received most of his treatment - is no good? Or that the club who sent him to Dr Stead, paid the fees and Hargreaves wages, just ignored the Doctor's treatment schedule and decided to "experiment" on him? And how old is Hargreaves; is he a little kid who cannot speak for himself if he feels the treatment is wrong? And on what (medical) basis is he making these allegations? Is he qualified? It was suggested that his problems at OT may have been not completely physical, so he may fare better with less pressure at a smaller club. In any event, it seems a rather snide thing to do, and somewhat premature. If he gets injured again, whose fault will it be next time? Manchester United spent a fortune on treatment and wages, gave him so much time; does he really think the club would be so negligent of the health of such a valuable asset in which they had invested so much time and money? If he feels so badly now he has obviously felt that way for a large part of the three years, during which time United apparently paid him £70k per week, which equates to £10.9m over the period. Did he stay there mute so that he got his money while he was sick? Did United pay anything else in the way of treatment for him? Why did he not speak out earlier? Obviously because he liked the money he was getting for doing nothing. Which seems to be a criticism that could be labelled at other players . Like Wayne Rooney last year, when he had to be sent to America to get his head in order, but also to return to a huge increase in his salary. But Rooney has repaid that handsomely. I find Hargreaves' outburst sad in the extreme, and if he never plays for England again that would not bother me at all. But in the end the only criticism of United would be to try to understand why Hargreaves can appear to be so fit now that he can play for City, a team with excesses of players who can fill that role, while United let him go on a free transfer. A loan would have been understandable, when they could have controlled to whom he was loaned, but to give City a player with aspirations to play again for England looks decidedly stupid now. He has played one game in the City reserve XI against a bunch of nobodies in the League Cup. And on that basis you think it was a mistake to sell him? United didn't need to keep paying his wages just so he could play in a few Carling Cup games before breaking down again. I would be amazed if he were to make it to the end of the season. I would have agreed with your last part but for the fact that it was City that picked him up. Not to annoy United, surely, but because their doctors thought that he was finally over his longer term problems. As far as I know United didn't sell him as you said but gave him away. And if you are wrong and he plays a part in City winning something that will look like a stupid move to have gifted him to City in what will be then seen to be a premature move. Since I don't support either club I find myself hoping for Hargreaves sake that he does succeed, even if I wish he had remained silent over the past three years. Or spoken up then when he was being paid so handsomely for doing nothing. Hargreaves proved to be a huge liability for United. The job he was purchased to undertake had to be done by other equally expensive signings. He was a flop. It was acutely embarrassing and revealing that he continued to draw his not inconsiderable wages during this lengthy unproductive period. We already have the fragile old crock Carling Cup fill in player role filled at Old Trafford by Michael Owen, so it was time for Hargreaves to cease being a drain on resources. If he thinks he will get regular first team games a City he is deluded. I will enjoy watching him at Ewen Fields though. A tyrant operates by building a climate and culture of fear at every layer of the structure. A Nazi tyrant (and other sundry similar types) much prefers that IN DUE COURSE everyone's behaviour becomes miraculously automatic and voluntary as they imagine is expected of them, which does NOT exclude medic staff and football players, rather than embarrassingly coerced.
By contrast, Manchester City's Cook doesn't make for a competent tyrant saying that Onuhu's mum was making out about her cancer illness. That incompetence makes him nicer than Ferguson. Most players including Hargreaves love to play for United under Ferguson. That is the reason for the clubs success. Players are treated fairly, but a lot is expected of them. Was Hargreaves treated badly I don't think he says that. He is just saying that he should have taken more ownership of his own recovery. Ferguson would never make any player play a game if they are not fit. Say what you want, your comments come from a place of jealousy of United's success. The 26 football games is less than half of his PL club's games in a season, and includes non-club games (playing for England - he seemed to make remarkable recoveries just in time for major International tournaments!), and the average would have been lower at Spurs because he played lots for Portsmouth before moving, which will push the average figure up. Only 26 games per season as a first choice player in a top PL team is a very poor record. He's not bad-mouthing United at all, just saying that he might have done things differently and taken more responsibility for decisions over his healthcare, in hindsight. Fact is, his upbringing means he is one of the few English players who does not panic on the ball and can even fake to go one direction and move the other instead. A basic skill that most overseas players possess but which escapes British players for some reason. He's also a damn fine midfielder too. Real shame it never worked out for him in a red shirt but good luck to the lad, at least he didn't move to Liverpool, we would never have forgiven him for that! Great to hear from the intelligent United fans. Hargreaves and other sporting celebrities should realise that our press will create a storm in a tea cup given half a chance. To sum up - United's staff did their best and it didn't work out. They were great people and he also mentioned in an earlier interview that the one positive about the injury was meeting some of the people who helped him on the way - which one would assume would include the medical staff at Old Trafford. He was naive to play against Wolves, but I should imagine that both he and The press (sadly including the Telegraph) will always try and create some sort of confrontation. Players never consider an offer from a club and then turn it down for professional reasons - it is a 'snub'. Hargreaves wasn't stating that some of the medical practises that the OT staff tried unfortunately didn't work - he's taking a 'swipe' at United. You have to wonder what Hargreaves hopes to achieve in coming out with his criticism of United. Bad mouthing his previous employer may give him some personal satisfaction however he risks alienating his previous colleagues, employers and in this case United fans, and labelling himself as a winger His comments could be a little premature after just one first team game, I hope not for his sake.
Since I haven't seen or heard the interview I can't really tell the tone he took - whether it was accusatory, or just factual and dispassionate. Having said that, on the face of it he seems to be suggesting his treatment was mishandled, or his injuries misdiagnosed or mistreated. If he was flown around the world to receive treatment from all kinds of experts, including the guy who eventually helped him recover, and received the best treatment available, then it's a bit rich to turn around and complain. Especially since he was getting paid a tidy sum for the whole period. Most people would be embarrassed picking up a fat pay check for 3 years while not contributing. I just hope he doesn't turn on Manchester U to try to ingratiate himself to the City fans. That is a rather strange and uninformative way of looking at things. Clearly as an expense Hargreaves medical bills just like his wages will be off settable against tax as an expense, but this is tax that Manchester United itself would otherwise have paid, so in this case the taxpayer who has footed the bill is Manchester United itself. The fact is that Manchester United has for several years Hargreaves medical bills and his not inconsiderable wages, without in this case being fortunate enough to generate income from his anticipated services. It was bad business in his particular case, but of course this sort of expense is carried across all of the players. However the fact is that the relative wealth of Manchester United and the ethos maintained by Sir Alex there mean that there is perhaps a more understanding attitude to illness there than may be the case at other clubs less fortunately circumstanced or with different attitudes. Manchester United simply look after their injured players very well, and Hargreaves has in fact been fortunate in his treatment.